Huhu,

wo hast du das her?
Bisher habe ich nichts gelesen, nur dass eben der Verlauf dort schwerer ist.

LG Emmaly

Liebe orni,

ich würde mit einem sehr feinen Sieb die Infos aus Ukraine/Weißrussland sieben ....

In beiden Länder herrscht noch Sowjetunion. Zwar in Weißrussland mehr, aber dennoch ... Und wie da die Nachrichten gemacht werden, kenne ich all zu gut. Wobei es nirgendwo auf der Welt wahrheitstreu dargestellt wird ;-)

Alles immer Politik.

Und um die Wahrheit rauszufiltern braucht man sehr viel Info, die man aus Ukraine nicht so leicht kriegt.

lg ani

Chernobilj gab es ja gar nicht bis Anfang Mai ....

... zumindest, was den Informationsfluß angeht. Und die "SU" jagt mir schon länger irgendwie Angst ein...

The biggest story on the Planet today is the outbreak of a veryserious Advanced Biological War virus in Europe.
The second biggest story on the Planet is the suppression of this story for almost two weeks by the corporate owned mainstream news media.

There is a lot we know and a lot that we can only speculate on about what is unfolding in Central Europe. We know that in mid-October, less than a month ago, there was a growing number of cases of what many thought was Swine Flu (A/H1N1) in the western part of the Ukraine. We know that many hundreds if not thousands of people in western Ukraine witnessed low flying light airplanes aerosol spraying something over

Ukrainian cities during the days of October 29, 2009 and October 31, 2009.

Was ist z.B. da mit?

We know that the internal temperature of the lungs of those with a

terminal case of what many are calling 'Ukrainian Plague' is often

from 130F to 135F. We do know that autopsies show that the lungs are

filled with blood, and are black in color, and that the lung tissue

has turned to mush. We know that patients who first show any signs of

illness usually crash in less than 48 hours, sometimes the same day.

We know that the disease was spreading by about 200,000 per day but

that this has slowed to about 100,000 day now, in the Ukraine, as

people take extraordinary steps to contain the spread of the disease.

We know that well over one and a third million people in the Ukraine

are very ill with the disease (according to published official

sources) and that over 60,000 are hospitalized in serious to critical

condition. We know that the disease has a very high transmission rate

with a likely low amount of viral (if it is in fact a virus) material

needed to cause an infection. We know that the official reports of

deaths are under 300 in the Ukraine. We also know that it is normal

for hospital admissions of people with ARI (acute respiratory

infection) to have a fatality rate of from 5% to 10%. We know that

non-official sources were reporting over 3,000 deaths several days ago

and that this number is more in tune with the 5-10% fatality rate than

the official figures.

We do not know what effective treatments are for this illness. We do

know that young adults seem to be more in danger of this illness. We

suspect that 'cytokine storming' similar to that in the 1918 Spanish

Flu, that killed approximately 50 million people, is taking place.

We know from official Ukrainian Health Ministry reports that the

illness does not test out as Mexican Swine Flu (A/H1N1). We do not

know if the existing Swine Flu vaccine has any effect, but based on

the non-positive response to Swine Flu in testing, we suspect that the

vaccine is ineffective as the viral protean shell is different than

A/H1N1 (if in fact it is a virus that causes the illness).

Oder hier mit? DOCH keine Schweinegrippe in der Ukraine?

Mitterlweile heißt es ja schon "The Ukrainian Plague". Und wandert nach Polen... vielleicht auch noch nach Ungarn...

Tschernobyl (ich schreibe das eingedeutscht)... jajaja... da durfte man 6 Monate keinen frischen Salat essen... hahaha... 6 Monate und alles ist in Butter. Verar.... kann ich mich selber.

Hier, in der Region, in der ich wohnte zog eine sog. "Tschernobyl-Regenwolke" drüber (in Oberösterreich - auch das Mühlviertel war betroffen). Aber der Boden baut das gleich wieder ab. Also hat Uran ne Halbwertszeit von 3 Monaten... und weshalb bekommen Kinder dann hier SD-Krebs??? :-!

LG,

orni

Noch was zur Cäsium-Wolke von Tschernobyl:

Habe gerade gelesen, dass 13% der Fläche Österreichs cäsiumverseucht sind... spitze... auch das Wild ist versucht. Wäre mal interessant zu wissen, ob es sich überhaupt lohnt, Gemüse anzubauen... oder ob da Spanische Tomaten sogar weniger toxisch sind als heimisch Angebautes...

LG,

orni